E93. Pioneering the Christian Life Coach Network w/ Dr. Justin Tilghman

We sit down with Dr. Justin Tilghman of the Christian Life Coach Network and dig into vetting coaches, credibility, collaboration tools, and why Christian coaches can serve churches, nonprofits, and corporate teams without turning every conversation into Christianese. Inside this episode you will find:

• the problem of great coaches operating in isolation
• why leaders struggle to find a trusted Christian coach online
• what “Christian Life Coach Network” means beyond life coaching
• the certification check and statement of faith as a credibility signal
• how a shared ecosystem raises standards across the profession
• collaboration through a coach forum, referrals, and shared tools
• resources for business development and coach growth
• serving corporate clients while coaching from Christian values
• AI messaging support for coach profiles and an AI coach matching tool

Visit https://christianlifecoachnetwork.com to find out more.

Transcript

Welcome And Beach Town Small Talk

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome in Dr. Justin Tillman, who is the founder of the Christian Life Coach Network and a leadership and life coach dedicated to strengthening the credibility and visibility of Christian coaches worldwide. Through his coaching practice, Balanced Coaching, he integrates emotional intelligence, attachment theory, and Christian spiritual formation to help individuals and leaders grow in resilience, clarity, and purpose. In addition to coaching, Justin serves as a pastor, professor, and speaker, equipping leaders with practical tools for relational and emotional maturity. Welcome to the show, Dr. Tillman. Justin, how are you today?

SPEAKER_01 0:48

I'm doing great, Dr. Whelan. Thanks for having me, Kerry.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Absolutely. Happy to have you. Tell us where in the world you are coming to us from today.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

I am I am flying in all the way from eastern North Carolina in the huge city of Kinston.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

So it sounds weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

We're the last stop before you get to the beach.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

So oh. So how far is that for you?

SPEAKER_01 1:15

We're we're about 45 minutes from the beach. So that the interstate that goes through North Carolina and gets you to the beach, we're the we're the last big exit with uh we have a we have a place here in Kinston that caught themselves as the last bathroom break on the way to the beach. So that's not too far. No, it's not it's not too bad at all. We we can make a day trip to the beach really easily here.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

So beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Yeah girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

So definitely. I know we go, we go out, it's about 30, 35 minutes for us, and and we are there, and it's but here's the thing you know, leaders are busy, and we have to actually make time to do those things that we love. So I'm trying to get better myself at saying, okay, we're doing a beach day. So for this Friday, and you can hold me accountable going to the beach.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Well, that's fun. Yeah, we like it because we can go to the beach and then we can come home and be out of all the beach traffic.

Why Build The Network Now

SPEAKER_00 2:15

That's right. That's perfect. Well, today we are going to be talking about this new venture of yours, this network that you have put together. And I would love to understand like why now. So, what problem in the Christian coaching space led you to build the Christian life coach network?

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Yeah, so one of the biggest challenges I saw, I mean, being a coach myself, is that there are a lot of really excellent coaches in the space, and they're building their practices and they're doing all these things. And a lot of times they're doing it in isolation. And so there are a lot of gifted, well-trained coaches, they're serving leaders, they're serving churches, organizations. But I they don't sometimes I don't think they have the shared infrastructure that helps them be visible, that helps them display their credibility. And so at the same time, so that's one side of it. At the other side, there are a lot of leaders who are looking for Christian coaches. And and from what I have found, you've got two options. You can you, when you go to Google, you can either find a coach through a specified training school or program, they'll have may have a directory, or you have to peruse individual websites. And and so the thought here was that building this network would bridge both those gaps. It gives it a structured platform for certified Christian coaches. They can increase their visibility, they can strengthen their messaging. We have lots of tools for them to help build a sustainable practice, but also make it easier for churches and nonprofits and leadership teams to have a place to go to to find a certified Christian coach. So they don't have to go all over the place looking. We're trying to build here a hub where if I go to Christian Life Coach Network, I know those are going to be certified Christian coaches that I can trust. And that's a that's a great place for me to go and first start my looking around.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

I really like that idea. And a lot of um collaboration, I imagine, can happen in that ecosystem. I know you talk about, and we'll get to that within that. How did like what sparked this for you? Do you remember? Can you think back to like where this really was birthed for you? Like what was happening during that time for you?

SPEAKER_01 4:45

So early on in building my my own practice, I I was looking for spaces, one to find clients to be more visible, but looking for a way to interact with coaches and learn from them. And there weren't that many places out there to do that that didn't charge an astronomical fee to be a part of that group. And if you're brand new starting out, I mean, money is a hot commodity. So you don't have a, you're building a business, you don't have a lot to just throw around. And there were several groups on social media that connected life coaches to prospective clients. And so I got in those groups and and they were really helpful for both things. I could talk to other coaches in the groups and I could put stuff out there for potential clients. And I didn't see one that was specifically for Christian coaches. Now, there were lots of Christian coaches in these spaces, but I just had this idea, man, what wouldn't it be great if we had a space where you know the coaches you're rubbing shoulders with have a like faith and similar values and uh are probably most likely called to this work in the same way that you feel called to it. And and so I started a Facebook group just for that. And it was a Christian Life Coaching Network on Facebook, and and it quickly grew to about 3,000 people. And so my thought was, well, hey, there seems like there's something here that could be helpful to people, but it's just it was just Facebook specific. So if you weren't on Facebook, you couldn't really find it. And and and I'm like, well, there are lots of folks looking for coaches that aren't on Facebook. So what would it look like to have a directory? And I've seen other directories before, I mean, there are lots of directories out there, but I had in my mind, like me and the the psychology today of Christian coaching. Like, what would it look like? You know, you always want to set a vision and just shoot for something. And so it's like, man, when somebody thinks about looking for a counselor or therapist, oftentimes the first thing that pops in their mind is go to psychology today. And I was like, man, what would it be like if we had something like that? When I mean, coaching is a growing profession. I think people are becoming more and more familiar with it. What would it be like to have a space where when people think, I'm looking for a Christian coach, I need to go to this spot, you know, Christian Life Coach Network, and start there. So that's what started it is it was something I wish I had had. And I I saw what I felt like was a need as I talked to other coaches. And and, you know, some of these other directors are great, but they're not specifically faith-based. And I was like, man, it just would be nice to have a space where folks coming know that these are Christian coaches, you know, that would kind of develop the pretty, pretty orthodox, the basic statement of faith. So all the coaches on the network, you can kind of get a feel from this is these are the things that they adhere to from a statement of faith perspective. And they're all certified. So I can peruse these coaches and I know the ones that I'm looking at share my similar Christian values, and they're trained to do well what they do. And so I don't have to, I don't have to necessarily start by perusing all these hundreds of websites or going to this directory where I'm not 100% sure if this is a Christian coach or not. They say they are, but I don't know what that means. So that was the impetus that kind of like got it the ball rolling, and and it kind of burst from that.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

So thank you for sharing that. It's always yeah. I I always like to hear like what is the real backstory to the story, right? Because things you know, so many times we think people, you know, they just start something. It it had to start somewhere. So I I love that it started with you and and you're feeling that need based on what you wish you had.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's again, I think just the the ability to have have a space for Christian coaches where like I said, clients can come and they know that they know kind of what they're getting. But at the same time, just a place for coaches who are in this space. And and I the for you know, coaches that join, I tell them, like, hey, this is not this is not intended to be the only place that you're visible on the internet. It's just intended to be one of those places that that you don't just get a listing, but you get to connect with a community of coaches who are all doing the same thing, have the same heart. And and so yeah, it it was just one of those things where, man, I wish if if if I had had this when I started out, I would have jumped on it. I was like, I would have loved to have been in a group of solid Christian coaches that I could bounce ideas off of. And I and I knew we weren't competing with each other. So yeah. So that's it's a little bit of the I wish I'd had this, and then talking to other coaches. Well, well, you know, let's let's see if this is something that that folks should be interested in.

Who The Network Is For

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Now I know that it's called Christian Life Coach Network, and I I'd like you to clarify what that means to you and who is able to join that type of network, your network.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Yeah. So it's it's Christian Life Coach Network. And and the name originally came because we I fashioned it after the other life coach networks that were that I was in at that time. But it it is it is open to any Christian coach. If you're a leadership coach, if you're a career coach, I I'd say if you have any, if you coach in any way that intersects with a Christian's life, you can fit it on the Christian Life Coach Network. So it's it's not strictly for quote unquote just life coaches. Um it's it's for anybody who would who would uh you know feel like they can align with that statement of faith. They're certified to be a coach. Uh, we we want anybody in there. I the vision is that this is the place, if you're a Christian and you're looking for leadership coaching, you're looking for marriage coaching, you're looking for parent coaching, you're looking for just general life coaching, whatever it might be, that this would be one of the first places that you come to uh and could search around and and find coaches that that fit for you.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Yeah, thank you for clarifying that. Because I want people to understand that exactly what you said, it's not just for life coaches, it is for any coach who does have that, you know, Christian faith about them. And and and I do like that it's vetted, if you would.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Yeah. Like there is a standard that you're looking for in order for somebody to be part of the network, which is Yeah, and it it's not a we're not setting like a super high bar, like it's not like you've got to be you know MCC from an ICF standpoint, but we want you to, we want people that are on this network, when folks come to it. This is not just if you're on a listing here, you're not just someone who took a two-hour video-based course on how to be a coach, and now you're out there coaching. You know, so when when people, and that's why we say when you join, you're actually applying to the network. Yeah. And so we we ask you to upload your certification. And and we're not, we're not being super certification police, but we just we want to be able to say to folks that are coming to look for coaches that, hey, every coach listed here has a a vetted, confirmed certification, and it's it's not a fly-by-night certification. And so they know what they're doing, they're trained in it, and you can feel confident when you connect with this person that you're getting a professional who knows what they're doing and and is bringing real skill sets to bear on working with you.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Well, you're you're really helping to raise a standard to where it should be as far as because somebody could call them a coach, right? I'm a dozen. People hang a shingle, I'm a coach. Though they don't have the training that's behind the word coach or professional coach. So I do like that you're helping the profession, you know, have that standard of, you know, this this is the expectation if you're going to be part of the network. The expectation is, you know, X, Y, Z. And I like that. So thank you for doing that on behalf of the profession of coaching.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

You're welcome. You're welcome. And I I I I feel so strongly about what we're doing and and the role that coaching can play. And and because of where it fits in in the helping personal growth, spiritual growth space, I just have a real conviction that folks that do it need to know what they're doing. And and, you know, and I feel like if God calls you to coaching, he's gonna put you into places to get the training that you need to do it well. And so we want to be a space where those well-trained coaches are visible to people.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

I'd love for you to talk a little bit more about how this, you know, how how coaches and being part of the structured network can help strengthen the credibility. You know, we're talking about that. And maybe talk a little bit more about that. So working with whether churches, executive leaders, ministry teams, how does being part of the structured network really strengthen a coach's credibility?

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Yeah. And so that is, you know, the first part of that is your training is your biggest credibility. I see this network as a supplement to that. We're we're gonna do the work on our end to build up the credibility of the network itself. And so when when leaders or organizations, when they hire a coach, they care about credibility and they want to know that the person that is working with them is trained, they're professional. And I think too, they want to know, you know, they may not know what ICF is or what, you know, the Association of Coaching in Europe is or anything like that. They may have no clue. They likely don't. But I think when they can see, oh, this is this is somebody who's a trained coach and they're part of a broader ecosystem of practitioners, then that helps bring additional credibility. So your training is going to be your primary credibility. But when they can see, oh, this person's a member of the Christian Life Coach Network, and and I've or I've heard of that before, or I can go to that website and I can read about that, and I can see, oh, if they're in this network, there's certain boxes they've checked to be listed in this network, it raises that sense of credibility. And so they're not just they're not just operating as an individual practitioner. They're they're connected to an ecosystem that's designed to elevate standards, elevate visibility. And I think that gives Christian, that gives churches, organizations, individual leaders, I think that gives them confidence that who they're engaging with is someone who's part of a recognized network of certified coaches. And it signals that the coach is committed to professional growth and serving clients with confidence, with integrity, because they're willing to put their name out there and they're willing to be a part of this, this, this group, this network of coaches. And so my hope is that while your individual credibility will help you as the network grows, that credibility will help you. And then the coaches in that network will all kind of benefit from everybody's credibility. Because, like, hey, you're on you're on the same network as this person, and I know this person's name. And if you're on that network, then you you check the same box as they did, I'd love to talk to you. So that's that's the vision, is is a supplemental credibility thing that helps helps augment the credibility you already have through the training and things like that, just to give you something to say, hey, I'm not just an individual coach out here on my own. I also care enough about what I do that I'm a part of this larger network of coaches. And that just that just boosts it for everybody.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Let's talk about that a little bit, maybe about the collaboration and that what that would look like, say with you know, serving complex leadership and team dynamics. What could that look like with the network?

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Yeah, so in the network, we kind of we kind of see it as there's two, there's two pieces. There's the client-facing piece of folks coming to the the directory looking for a coach. And we built all sorts of tools for them. But on the back end, each coach who's a member, we've we've built a coach portal. And and in that portal, man, there's so many tools in there. And and one of my favorite tools is just a simple coach community forum. So you can get in there, you can you can post things in that forum, like, hey, I've got a client I'm working on with X. Has anybody run into this before? Any suggestions? Like, you know, are there certain assessments you've used before that you think might be helpful? So I think one of the benefits is that it helps coaches feel connected to a broader field rather than just trying to carry every single client interaction by themselves. And and I think that happens through visibility and shared infrastructure. So when they're connected through that common platform, they they can see themselves as part of a collective effort and not just, well, I'm I'm out here lone rangering it by myself. And so I think that mindset of, hey, I've I'm part of a network, I think it encourages collaboration. And that and that can mean a lot of different things. That can mean, you know, referring clients to each other that I could be partnering together. I mean, I'd love to, I love to see coaches start talking, like, hey, let's let's partner together and do this thing. And so now they both win from it. And, you know, or or just learning from other people, just that simple post of, hey, I ran into this with a client the other day. I'm not quite sure what to do with it. And has anybody else experienced that? And then you got another coach pop in, like, man, I just, yeah, I just had that a year ago or six months ago, and this is what helped me get through it. I I think that helps, again, not feel like you're doing all this in isolation because we're just as human beings, we're not meant to do things alone. And I think coaching can be it can be a lonely space if you're building a practice and if you have a mindset that man, we're we're all fighting for the same clients. And my hope is that with this network, we we start to have more collaboration together. And and hey, I'm doing my thing over here that God's called me to do. You're doing your thing over here, He's called you to do. And there's some overlap, maybe there's some intersection with what we're doing, but man, we can really help each other. We can support each other. I can be rooting for you, you can be rooting for me. Now, if I found something that really helped me, like an assessment that I took, to mean it's it's just been gangbusters with my clients, I could share that with all the other coaches in the network. So, my my again, my hope and my vision is that this network really becomes a place that coaches benefit by actually being seen by clients and contacted by clients, but also they feel like, man, this is just this is my place. These are my people. And and when I'm in here, I just enjoy talking to other people. I enjoy the coaches I've gotten to meet while I'm in the network. And if it sparks friendships and collaborations outside the network, man, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Hi. I really like that idea. I mean, collaboration is is really key on so many different levels. And when I think about like team coaching, many times it's co-coaching. So you are looking for partners, you are looking for people to collaborate with. And I also like the idea of within the network, people, you know, are able to share their ideas, share their your their tools or or whatnot. And so many times people hold things so close to them that they're not doing that for fear of, you know, somebody's gonna take my client or somebody's gonna use an assessment that I use and this, that, and the other thing when there are enough clients to go around.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

We don't need to be you know, holding on to things so tightly. I I believe that when you are sharing and when you are gifting to people, you know, that that's gonna come back to you and however the Lord, you know, wants it to. Uh, but there's power in that.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Oh yeah. And and two, there's power in that synergy. And and there, I think there are a lot of tools that are out there that some coaches don't know exist. And and so when you're talking to other coaches and they say, well, I use this assessment. Well, what was that assessment? Like, where can I find that? Where can I learn more about that? Well, now you've been opened up to a whole new, whole new tool. And that's part of what we're doing too, is is in the the coach portal side. We've also got what's called a coach growth hub that we built. And it's just some resources, articles, tools on three primary areas. One, you know, how to how to build your practice. So business development, how to build your own development as a coach and just as a follower of Jesus. And then two, or the third, the third one being we're we're doing work on the back end to develop partnerships with a lot of these assessments that are out there so that if you're in the network, one, you can go see what assessments are out there that you might be interested in, but two, as being part of the network, you you might get you know a preferred access to a certain assessment training or something like that. Because we want, we don't want this, like my vision is not that this is just a directory, I pay for listing, and that's it. It really is an ecosystem. Where I have a listing and one part of it is clients being able to see me, but there's a whole other part where I'm talking to other coaches. I'm growing in my own practice. I'm seeing these different incentives and partnerships that I have access to as being part of this. It really gives back to me. Like my I love how you said, you know, giving and the Lord gives back. And that that's my mentality. Like I this this is my hope is that folks who get joined this network feel like, man, I'm getting way more than I'm paying for. Like this is this is returning to me in spades. That that's my heart for it, is is that it's a space where when coaches join it, they feel like, man, I this is I I want to be here for a while because I'm getting poured into so much. And I know that the folks in this network have my best interest at heart and they want to see me succeed. And and I just this is a space where I just feel like I'm I'm seen, I'm known, and I'm supported in what I'm doing.

Vision For Healthier Church Leadership

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Good thanks. Absolutely. All right. Well, you talked a little about your vision, but I I'd love to hear if there's anything more in the vision for how your network could shape the future of leader development within churches, nonprofits, and faith-based organizations. What is that like?

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Yeah, it the the extra thing I'd share there is probably from the client-facing side, is that my hope is that this the Christian Life Coach Network really becomes it, kind of go back to that psychology today, like becomes part of the infrastructure that that helps strengthen leadership across the Christian landscape. I think, you know, many churches, many faith-based organizations, they know they want leadership development. They know they want, you know, stronger teams, more emotionally healthy teams, more relationally connected teams. And I think Christian coaching is uniquely positioned to support that kind of growth because we integrate not just the practical leadership stuff, but we integrate spiritual formation. And so I feel like Christian coaches are able to come at it from both sides. We can come at it from just the, again, the practical development stuff, but we can also come at it from the side of developing you as an image bearer of God. And if we can make that easier, if the Christian Life Coach Network can make it easier for leaders and organizations to find a qualified Christian coach and easier for coaches to build their practices, then I think over time we build a stronger profession. And I think that means healthier leaders, healthier teams, healthier ministries, organizations. And so that that's really the vision to help create a place where Christian coaching can serve the church and faith-based organizations and Christian coaches can be found and churches and these, whether whether it's a church or parachurch ministry or whatever it might be, or just a marketplace ministry that's run by Christians, just a place where they can go and say, hey, I'm gonna start here. We need we want a coach, we need a leadership coach, we need a team coach, whatever. We're gonna start here because I know the coaches here are credible. Let's go here, see if we can find somebody and connect with them and and just again make access easier because I feel so strongly that Christian coaching plays a powerful role in in kingdom work. And so my vision is let's just let's make it as easy as possible for people to find good coaches.

Being A Christian Coach In Corporate

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Absolutely. And you know, a misconception and I believe it's a misconception, is that if you're a Christian coach, you know, let's just say because a lot of my clients are corporate clients, right? But I'm a coach and I'm a Christian. And so I would be a Christian coach. Uh, but it doesn't necessarily mean that if you hire me and I'm a Christian coach, that if the organization doesn't want the Christianese, if you will, coach to come through, then that's fine. I'm still showing up as a Christian. It doesn't mean that I'm chapter and verse. It means that my values are Christian values, that they come through in a way that, you know, I'm a good person. I'm as a coach, I'm not gonna lead you down the wrong road, et cetera, et cetera. So I I think that sometimes people have this misconception that if you're a Christian coach, you can't be in corporate because within the walls of organizations are all kinds of Christians.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

And so if you are in a, and this is this is just my experience. I know that if somebody witnesses to me or if on my the form that they complete, if they say they would like prayer, I'm gonna pray for them. If they say no, thank you, I'm not going to. And so the conversations happen when you are in those rooms and that the psychological safety is part of that and the building of trust and how you are developing in those relationships. And if somebody is open for if the door is open, right? If if the Holy Spirit is, you know, leading you to this and leading you as a partnership of the client to have the Christian way or coaching way to come through, then it does. But I can still walk into a boardroom and be myself and still be a Christian coach, but I'm not necessarily speaking Christian. Does that make sense? Because I think it's it makes perfect sense. Yeah, with with a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

And I'm afraid to me that goes with I can't remember who it was that coined the the the phrase, but I'm a firm believer, all truth is God's truth wherever you find it. And and that has been because I have I have clients that aren't Christians, and and and I'm up front with them, like they know who I am, they know where my values come from, where my coaching comes from, but they still hire me. And and I, you know, God made the people, whether whether they're Christian or not, God made them. And and so the the things that cause us as Christians to flourish are are the same things that will cause them to flourish. And my hope always is, is that if I work with them and they're not believers, that just the way that I treat them, the way that I interact with them and the results I help them get, that in the back of their mind the spirit will use that and say, hey, it was a Christian that got you there. It was a follower of Jesus who helped you. Where do you think he got that from? And maybe just put a pebble in their shoe. But I, yeah, I just think you know, Christian coaching or Christians who coach are in a unique spot to really make a big impact. And it doesn't have to just be in churches and things like that. So I love you making that distinction because I agree 100%.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Yeah. And you know, people are looking for for good solid coaches regardless of, but that said, your network is for Christian coaches, and that, you know, that could just lead to to so many different opportunities for the people who are part of that.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Yeah. That's the hope.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

That is the hope. Absolutely. So what else? Is there anything else that maybe we didn't talk about that's important for the listeners to know?

SPEAKER_01 29:29

I mean, that we we kind of just circled around there at the end, just that you know, that Christian coaching, I really do think has the potential to play a significant role and in strengthening leaders again, across across the spectrum. And my vision with the Christian Life Coach Network is that if we can help coaches build sustainable practices and we can connect them with the people that they're called to serve, then I think that's just that's the win for everyone. So if I can be a part of facilitating that, I want to do it.

Where To Find The Network

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Excellent. Well, tell us where people can can find the network.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Yeah, so it's it's really hard to find. It's it's Christian LifeCoach Network.com.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

I was hoping it was gonna be easy.

AI Matching And Messaging Tools

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah. So if they go there, they'll see it, you'll land on the main directory page, but there's just a link right up at the top to get listed. And on that, on that get listed page, we have some snapshots from the back end of the coach portal so you can kind of see what do you get as a coach on the back end. And and this is uh it's a living infrastructure. And so, you know, as you're a coach, there's a spot in there too. As you're in and you're tinking around, you're kicking the tires, you're using it, you're like, hey, I'd really love to be able to have this tool, then let us know. We I want to continue to build this so that it is always functional and effective. And so if we've got a tool that no coaches are using and everybody's like, hey, this isn't really that helpful, we're gonna pull it out, we'll put a new one in. But you can go there, you can see some of the coaches are listed, you can see how it's structured, how it's formatted. A really neat piece that we have on both ends is on the coach portal. We're talking about messaging, there's we've got some AI tools in there to help you audit your profile and audit your messaging and give you some ideas on how to make it better. And it's not generic, it's uh it's an AI-based tool that actually you communicate with and it asks you questions about your coaching practice. So it doesn't just spit out blanket generic stuff. And on the front end, which we've we've actually the new website has been up for almost about three weeks now. But on the client-facing side, a tool I'm very excited about is it's an AI matching tool. So most directories you go on and you you just filter through with the little categories, or you might type in the search bar. But with this AI matching tool, you you type in what it is that you're looking for. Like what's your struggle, what's your problem, what kind of coach are you looking for, as much information as you want to give, and it will filter through all the coaches in the network and it will it will pop up for you the top five. And it ranks them by, hey, this is a strong fit, this is a uh kind of a tangential fit here, but it gives you rather than having to search through how many coaches are on there, you can do that if you want to, but it also you can use that tool to help you find coaches that are probably a good fit for you. And so that's why we help coaches build strong profiles because the AI tool is reading all these profiles and and trying to match it up with what the person's looking for. And and I I don't I've seen that used in other places, I've not seen that used yet for a specifically Christian coach directory. So we're really excited to try to pioneer that.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Pioneers. There's something about pioneers.

unknown 32:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

Oh, well, that is awesome. And if people want to like contact you, are they able to contact you through the network?

SPEAKER_01 32:53

How should they be able to do that? Yeah, there's you you can contact through the network. There's a there's a contact link there that'll email me directly. Um I'm also, I mean, I'm on LinkedIn, just look for Justin Tillman. Um, or you can go to my my private practice balancecc.com, and that's a great way to get connected with me too. But uh yeah, if anybody has questions or they want to know more, I am I am all for helping people see what's going on here, get a peek behind the curtain, answer any questions they have because I want it to be something that's that's helpful to them.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Well, I wish you all the best with this venture. Folks you're here with Dr. Justin Tillman and Christian Life Coach Network. Check it out, check his website out, get a hold of uh Justin if you have questions with that. And until next time, you keep doing great things, and we'll see you soon.